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To Do List

Dear co-conspirators, I don't have all that much time. I don't know how to handle this wiki yet. I don't know what to do. So I am suggesting the following for me and for anyone who feels the same: Let's make a to-do-list. This could include the following:

  • Creating articles for every comic page (is there a way to make that happen automatically, maybe even for pages to come?)
  • Transcribing comic pages
  • Categorising these pages with characters, places, ships, species etc.
  • Creating articles for characters

Ideally, it would be something like the explain xkcd wiki, right? Anyway, I really hope there won't be a lot of spam bots ruining our work... Ret Samys (talk) 03:20, 28 March 2016 (PDT)

Spoilers

I don't know if I should reveal everything when discussing certain things in articles. Any ideas on whether or not we should cluster this wiki with the maximum amount of spoilers possible? Ret Samys (talk) 10:58, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

Copyright

At one point or another, one might be tempted to copy information from the comic (especially the species information sheets) into this wiki without Dave Kellett's consent. Maybe he's fine with that, maybe he's not. Note to self: Ask him about this in Disqus comments or on Patreon. I will update you on this matter. Ret Samys (talk) 11:12, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

Update: I have asked him about this and he has answered me:
  • Ret Samys: Oh, also, I know you're busy, but: I am now very, very slowly going through every page of the comic to extend the skeleton wiki. I have now reached the first encyclopedic page and I worry about copyright. I would like to write everything about the Makers there is, but while the wiki has a CC license and your comic does not, I can't just copy everything, right? Also, that means that I can't transcribe comic pages just like that. So here is my thought: If you give me permission, I can transcribe the pages and use text from the comic, but also I will mark these passages as non-CC content (making some wiki templates just in case).
  • Dave Kellett: I think that would be acceptable within the confines of the wiki, yes. Thank you for asking!
The matter has thus been resolved. Please use Template:Copyright whenever you take something directly from the comic. Ret Samys (talk)

Suggestions for admins

Dear admins, you wonderful Makers, here are two things I would like to propose - since I can't do that as a normal foot soldier:

Ret Samys (talk) 07:59, 4 April 2016 (PDT)

Wiki Migration

This is the place to speculate about the migration of this fine wiki from drive.mcslp.net to drivecomic.com, since that is one long-term plan Dave has proposed, as can be read on his Patreon.

Integration on comic pages

People have been asking for a tag or category system on drivecomic.com to better navigate and find stuff. The wiki categories would be ideal for this kind of thing. I have discussed this as a comic on the latest blog post, I'll copy it here:

(As a reply to Chrisssssssssssssss's comment)
Hi there! I don't know about Dave's plans other than maybe integrating the Wiki on this domain. However, the Drive Wiki uses all sorts of tags categories and everyone is free to add new ones as long as it makes sense. An overview of the plots can be found in this category. As soon as the pages are moved in the archive, I will add all pages past "Shirtings" and all pages of "Esteemed Gentleman ..." to the wiki.

Other than that... the Tales of the Drive guest strips will be re-ordered on this page so that you can read the single stories uninterrupted by the main plot (much to the dismay of anyone who wants to read the corresponding comments because they will be under a different comic page). If this goes like it always goes, for Esteemed, this will happen sometime this week, maybe next week.

There might be a possibility to pull categories from the wiki and put it on here, but this would be technical and I haven't really looked into it yet. Definitely possible, but I'm not sure if I want to put all of the work into that unless Dave tells me he would at least consider it. It would be a wonderful extension to readers. And it would bring more people to the wiki. =)
I mean... thinking about it, it should be possible with something as simple as PHP, but I don't know if Dave has access to that kind of thing or the technical knowledge to insert a code snippet (sorry, I just don't know his level of expertise in these things). Something like...

<?php
$name="Page 0001";

$wiki="http://drive.mcslp.net/?title=";
$file = 'http://drive.mcslp.net/api.php?action=query&titles='.$name.'&cllimit=100&prop=categories&format=xml&redirects';
$xmlDoc = new DOMDocument();
$xmlDoc->load($file);
$cats= $xmlDoc->getElementsByTagName("cl");
$result="<a href='".$wiki.$name."'>Drive Wiki</a> ~ Categories: ";

if (is_array($cats))
{
foreach($cats as $cat)
{
$title=$cat->getAttribute('title');
$result.="<a href='".$wiki.$title."'>".substr($title,9)."</a> | ";
}
}
else
{
$result.="No categories yet.";
}

echo $result;
?>


Yeah! It works!

Of course you'll need to [...] 0001 with the actual page number.

Also, I'm the worst at coding efficiently! Saving this comment for later purposes.
I had some fun editing this a bit. The number of categories is limited to 100. Default was 10. There are 60-ish categories for the two maps.

Redirects are resolved. That means, if it's easier for Dave to call the page "*Dapp*" and put this into the code instead of working with the page number (this would mean that all titles have to be unique) or if he prefers to use the numeric version, such as 160924, we can simply add a redirect article to the wiki and the target article's categories will be displayed. All I have to know is what he settles on.

There is of course the matter of integration to discuss. But I don't know what Dave wants and how he manages this website. Is it a CMS? Does it allow editing in this kind of thing? Does it provide caching? Should it be integrated into the navigation bar, maybe as an icon (in which case we'd need to add JavaScript)? Or should we do it all in JavaScript and leave out PHP (which could reduce stress on both servers - wiki and drivecomic and caching isn't necessary, since it doesn't get loaded until the user requests it by pressing the wiki button and then only client and wiki will have to process - personally, I prefer not to use JS)? What about the visuals, should someone design some mockups? Where should the Categories be displayed, with the menu, under the comic page, as a popup? What about a search bar (which can only search the wiki)?
Ret Samys - Jinyiwei (talk) 01:02, 11 October 2016 (PDT)